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Oh Noes! Banned!

March 2, 2011

It seems that TRION is a bit heavy-handed when dealing with “malcontents”.


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You have been banned for the following reason:
This account has been suspended for three days due to a violation of the Rift Community Rules of Conduct. Please contact the Rift Community Team at community@riftgame.com if you have any questions.

Date the ban will be lifted: 03-05-2011, 05:00 PM

Really?  LOL!

  1. pitrelli
    March 2, 2011 at 12:35

    ooh harsh one. Guess they dont like getting critical feedback or people questioning how they have dealt with things.

    • March 2, 2011 at 12:48

      Seems that way doesn’t it…

  2. March 2, 2011 at 12:41

    From reading his posts, the ban was for making a repeat thread of one that a moderator had closed. That’s spamming the forums and ignoring forum mods, not to mention trying to circumvent dispute procedures. Pretty standard fare, and I’d have banned him too. Is it that hard to send an email and behave like an adult?

    • March 2, 2011 at 12:46

      Well then, you Sir, are no better than them. It’s them basically saying, “We don’t want to talk about it any more and if you dare bring it up again, we’re gonna ban you.”

      And since you apparently don’t read all the way through things, the ban came for “disobeying” a forum moderator. I don’t recall a “warning” of any sort, unless you want to call the last post by the Admin, a warning. I’d call it a request.

      How is that right? What does it hurt to let the thread die out on it’s own? If they were “right”, then why did 90% of the folks on the original thread agree with the basic premise that “first come first serve” should be adhered to in that case. And if they were “right”, why not just let the thread die?

      • March 2, 2011 at 13:30

        Not disagreeing with the first come first serve issue. If the other guild got it first, they should have it, sorry other guy. I couldn’t care less what the surrounding story is, I feel that in the case of guild names, Trion is in the wrong here. Not so much in your banning.

        The difference between a warning and a suggestion is that in once case, a person has means to enforce their suggestion after-the-fact. You choose to ignore it.

        • March 2, 2011 at 14:51

          So you agree with my original premise that Trion was wrong? Ok that’s a start.

          Then all I can offer you is that we’re two different sort of people, you and I.

          You passively condone what TRION did by your silence on the issue.

          I on the other hand would rather call them out for what was obviously (even by your admission) a wrong decision that they should have had the cojones to rectify.

          As for my banning, you’re entitled to you opinion. However it doesn’t negate the fact that they were wrong and now that they’re being called out on it, they choose to “silence” the criticism… You know… they do that sort of thing in countries like Libya, Iran.. Egypt. Apparently you’re cool with that sort of thing.

          • March 2, 2011 at 15:31

            Forums are a dictatorship, you agree to the rules when you use them. Despite your hyperbolic, strawman statements to the contrary, that reality will not change.

  3. March 2, 2011 at 15:48

    Shadow :

    Forums are a dictatorship, you agree to the rules when you use them. Despite your hyperbolic, strawman statements to the contrary, that reality will not change.

    Alright Shadow, which reality is that? That they’re wrong?

    Or that you condone their actions by your inaction?

    Or that I got banned from the forums?

    To be totally honset, it doesn’t really bother me that I got banned from the forums, what bothers me is their stifling of a critical voice on this issue.

    Looks like we just have to agree to disagree. Thanks for stopping by.

    • March 3, 2011 at 07:59

      I really shouldn’t keep trying, but:

      The reality is exactly like I said, forums are a dictatorship, and you agree to abide by those rules on use.

      It’s my [b]belief[/b] they were wrong in the situation of guild names.

      Inaction on a situation is not condoning it, it’s explicitly not partaking and choosing no side. Declaring otherwise is an invalid statement. It’s analogous to saying, “You’re inaction on the AIDs endemic in the city of Khomanani in South Africa is condoning it’s continued blight.”

      But I agree with you on one point, is clear we have very different perspectives and outlooks on the meaning of words, and the rights, responsibilities and privileges of various parties/institutions.

      Happy gaming.

  4. March 3, 2011 at 11:55

    Shadow, have you ever heard of Edmund Burke? While it’s disputed that he actually said this, it’s still attributed to him:

    “All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”

    And while that quote may be a tad over the top when we’re talking about video games, I think the principle still applies.

    You said:”Inaction on a situation is not condoning it, it’s explicitly not partaking and choosing no side.”

    But you DID take a side, you said: “It’s my [b]belief[/b] they were wrong in the situation of guild names.”

    You just chose not to say anything about it, I’m assuming that it was either because it didn’t matter enough to you (fair enough), or you feared repercussions (banning). I just hope you are this passive if something along these lines happens to you.

    And for the record, I never said that I thought the banning was unfair or unjust. The only thing I said was that I thought it was bit heavy handed.

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